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Re: Announcing New Subscription Tiers!

By Gustoon - League Admin
3/01/2024 4:31 am
There are two business levels going on here :

A) Keeping your existing players
B) Enticing new players into MFN.

A) Is failing as most of us have played for ‘free’ most of the time . The packages available are from ‘free’ to MVP package , which I think is quite expensive, and this is aimed at advocates of MFN …. Hmm??

B) So you’re new to MFN and pick up a team on the free option … what are the chances that you like it so much that you will want to spend money on it ? Slim IMO.

I could be way off base here , but this just smacks of wanting to wind up MFN for good.

Just have two packages ; free with up to two teams , multiple teams etc… $6 pcm ???

You need to draw people in, as it stands right now, I don’t think it’s appealing .

Just my two cents .

Re: Announcing New Subscription Tiers!

By TheWitchHunter
3/02/2024 9:01 pm
Bruno77 wrote:


Re: Announcing New Subscription Tiers!

By TheWitchHunter
3/02/2024 10:01 pm
NOt sure how this moved from bitching about subscriptions to attacking other players, but here we are.
I have nothing to hide.
Some things are not my place to discuss, but when and if they are, I will be nothing but honest and forthcoming.

Sure beats the oddball personal vendettas of hopeful revenge being thrown into a discussion of the factuality of the addition of subscription tiers, in addition to any pro and cons of a subscription service.

This is definitely an ish-YOU and not an ish-me.
I don't know why I became your problem, but here we are.

I encourage you to take your wrath of your MFN past out in giving actual ideas for subscription tiers, and what could be improved.
That has been my only focus here.
Unlike you, I have given nothing but ideas instead of personal attacks towards the owner and the MFN community.

No idea why I am your fetish, but I'm happy to let you continue your perversions from the actual topic at hand.
CJ, you are dangerous.


Re: Announcing New Subscription Tiers!

By TheWitchHunter
3/02/2024 10:20 pm
Stop and think.


Clearly, such a person would be justified in trying to avoid such anger.

Re: Announcing New Subscription Tiers!

By TheWitchHunter
3/02/2024 10:39 pm
The best part is watching CJ act like he does not have multi accounts that are used for signing players or cap reasons on the AI teams in the leagues he runs.
JDB knows exactly what my IP is doing. Does he know yours?

Re: Announcing New Subscription Tiers!

By Pernbronze
3/02/2024 10:59 pm
TheWitchHunter wrote:
NOt sure how this moved from bitching about subscriptions to attacking other players, but here we are.
I have nothing to hide.
Some things are not my place to discuss, but when and if they are, I will be nothing but honest and forthcoming.

Sure beats the oddball personal vendettas of hopeful revenge being thrown into a discussion of the factuality of the addition of subscription tiers, in addition to any pro and cons of a subscription service.

This is definitely an ish-YOU and not an ish-me.
I don't know why I became your problem, but here we are.

I encourage you to take your wrath of your MFN past out in giving actual ideas for subscription tiers, and what could be improved.
That has been my only focus here.
Unlike you, I have given nothing but ideas instead of personal attacks towards the owner and the MFN community.

No idea why I am your fetish, but I'm happy to let you continue your perversions from the actual topic at hand.
CJ, you are dangerous.





.... You were the one who started attacking the other players.... Is that supposed to be some kind of deep sarcasm or something? Further, you've had pretty much zero on the ideas front beyond "don't criticize mfn it makes me sad."

Re: Announcing New Subscription Tiers!

By TheWitchHunter
3/02/2024 11:02 pm
I suppose I should take a look at that.
Thank you for the insight, it's how I do better moving forward.

Re: Announcing New Subscription Tiers!

By TheWitchHunter
3/02/2024 11:12 pm
I can get really mixed up with my intentions to do well, my people pleasing, and my defensiveness.
I will definitely review my participation.
Sometimes, a good calling out is a good calling out.
I stand by my good intentions, and I will take a hard look as to how I can better communicate them -without accusations or my personal interpretations.
It sure does not help when I'm place into defending a brainstorm, agreed?
...All said, I can do better and I will effort to do so.

I'll likely keep making mistakes, obviously and with my recognition I've made some.
There is no space in these forums for such reflections.

The personal attacks are still nasty stuff.
The thread still went from subscriptions to players attacking players.
I will do my best to be better, that is all I can do.
Thank you for being both blunt and kind.
More light comes through two windows than one, and you gave me some enlightenment.
It's not my stance, but likely how I'm going about it.

Thank you for being observant and not belligerent.
It matters.
A lot.
That is how we can get from here to there.
I'll do my best to be better.

Re: Announcing New Subscription Tiers!

By TheWitchHunter
3/03/2024 12:02 am
This is where I am at, reaching out for suggestions from the very few because I really do want to be better and make MFN better.
"I know I've got good ideas, and I know most of MFN hates my ******* guts like none other. "
The former is why I play. The latter is something I need to improve upon.

What matters, is I am actually trying to be better.
F the haters.

(edit: Queue the haters. They gonna be hating after this, no doubt).

Last edited at 3/03/2024 12:13 am

Re: Announcing New Subscription Tiers!

By Cjfred68
3/03/2024 4:42 am
TheWitchHunter wrote:
NOt sure how this moved from bitching about subscriptions to attacking other players, but here we are.
I have nothing to hide.
Some things are not my place to discuss, but when and if they are, I will be nothing but honest and forthcoming.

Sure beats the oddball personal vendettas of hopeful revenge being thrown into a discussion of the factuality of the addition of subscription tiers, in addition to any pro and cons of a subscription service.

This is definitely an ish-YOU and not an ish-me.
I don't know why I became your problem, but here we are.

I encourage you to take your wrath of your MFN past out in giving actual ideas for subscription tiers, and what could be improved.
That has been my only focus here.
Unlike you, I have given nothing but ideas instead of personal attacks towards the owner and the MFN community.

No idea why I am your fetish, but I'm happy to let you continue your perversions from the actual topic at hand.
CJ, you are dangerous.




Ah, you attacked me for a comment in the CSB thread (UPDATE THE ENGINE OR I QUIT)

You basically called me a bigot for a comment I made 7 months before you even joined MFN.

You asked JDB to remove me from MFN as punishment and to make an example!!!

I didn't start anything!!!!!