All I did was asked if this had anything to do with GrandadB leaving Atlanta.

I have watched Tampa Bay/hkpman make trade after trade, season after season. I never said anything about collusion or unfairness. I did say that I hope the cap catches up with Tampa Bay eventually, though I'm not sure that it will.

Since when was it wrong to root against a division rival?

I don’t think anyone is saying otherwise. You’ve been around a long time and respected in every league. I think we are just all throwing out opinions about a unique situation.

Crazy you are never wrong........:) respect you a lot as division rival and love to compete and beat you. by the way i have not made offer to you this season.. so i better start work on it.. :)

Good luck! You know how difficult I am when it comes to trading! Lol

Don't forget the fact your starting RB for last 8 year has came to you from Tampa in very Panther favorable trade... :)

This is true. :)

And please forget about returning the players you've traded for. You earned them with effort.

I wonder what that trade looked like back when it took place. It looks terrible now. Lol

Talent acquisition and roster depth are only part of the equation for winning in MFN. I am fairly decent at roster management myself and while hkpman is a master at trading and acquiring draft picks, he just made the pkayoffs for the 1st time because gameplanning is the key to winning especially in the playoffs. Hkpman said it himself in the game he lost in the playoffs, he drove to the 9 and went for it on 4 and 2 instead of kicking the field goal to tie. Obviously he hadnt set rules for end game scenarios. No disrespect to hkpman because like I said, he is a master trader and great at roster management but needs work on his gameplaning.

I speak from experience because I have been beaten by master gameplaners when I felt I had the clear advantage with my roster.

I also agree that with the high salaries that come with the high draft picks, he will have to continue to juggle his roster in order to stay under the cap. I have traded with hkpman in the past and will continue to do so if it helps my team. My trades have resulted in my team going from 1-15 in 2005 to 13-3 in 2007 with 2 of my loses being against undefeated Dallas plus losing a defensive battle 16-7 in the playoffs against the eventual champions.

I hate to see anyone leave the league because of trades but they are a key part of the game

Just to be clear about the competitive balance in this league. Here is a list of the owners that have been in the championship game and there record in the big game

Mcarovil 4-1
Grandadb 2-4
Raidergreg69 1-2
Crazyrazor 0-1
Setherick 1-0

Hpkman would have to make it to the league championship at least 6 times before we talk about how dominating his trading has made him.

Everyone has a right to their own opinion but because of this thread, hpkman is second guessing himself, scared to make trades without some sort of approval and feels responsibility for someone leaving the league. HE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG and this league has ALWAYS had a lack of competitive balance.

Sorry but this thread ticked me off

Exactly. That's how I felt when I saw this thread.