Congrats on the win Crazy/Panthers, was not a GG, was just plain frickin silly, thanks JDB, you've really done a great job with 4.3, its about as good an improvement for the game as your dumb a$$ QB comments. I think we had another stupid game like this one, think I remember Mac being in one. Two very good defenses that were made to look like the worst in the league, yeah, real good new version. That was the first time Ive seen the worst about 4.3, now I know what a lot of the griping is about. cheers