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Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New Orleans Saints

By hkpman7180

6/08/2025 12:28 pm

Seth I can argue my point but you are the Commish so pls let me know what fair comp I need to pay to keep both trade alive and not void either trade.

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New Orleans Saints

By setherick - League Admin

6/08/2025 12:57 pm

I don't see Bardin worth a top 5 pick at any position. Part of that is I have an internal map of most important positions, so even though he's an 88 overall DE that only means he's good in that role but that role isn't the most important so unless a player has sublime speed and acceleration at that position, he's at best a late 1 but most likely mid 2 pick since that's the production you can get.

I'm waiting for New Orleans to chime in here.

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New Orleans Saints

By Dogboyuk75

6/08/2025 1:16 pm

dont think barden is too shabby lacks speed like you guys mentioned so not ever gonna be elite but was taken 2#17 and progressed ,so maybe worth late 2nd imo the full back and corner are purely depth probably 7th rd value and looking at kalvins record since hes been involved its fair to say probably gonna be an early 1st round pick.think the issue is buccs getting early 1st this season and future early 1st but only giving up handful of back up calibre players plus couple late 2nds .hink these trades would strengthen tampa more than saints for sure

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New Orleans Saints

By kalvin1991

6/09/2025 11:25 am

Hey guys to be honest, I'm starting to think unstanding the logic and value of a trade is not strong suit. I still trying to understand the acceleration to speed disparity. And I have been reading a lot of tips from the forums.

I think the problem I sell myself way too short.

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New Orleans Saints

By kalvin1991

6/09/2025 11:29 am

I think I'm going to stand firm on the trade even though I thought a extra player and a pick could make this worthwhile.... But I'm waiting to see what the verdict of what sort of solution that will help this issue.

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New Orleans Saints

By kalvin1991

6/09/2025 11:32 am

Another side note, his rating is 91/92 on my team.

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New Orleans Saints

By hkpman7180

6/09/2025 11:45 am

I am sorry but be honest Bardin is a good player

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New Orleans Saints

By hkpman7180

6/09/2025 11:46 am

Same thing happen during William Nutter trade and he is your starter too

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New Orleans Saints

By hkpman7180

6/09/2025 11:47 am

Even then I gave extra pick and now also I will do same …, as one thing for sure Bucs has never short changed anyone …you may feel trade did not balanced but we have always took that in consideration and given more in next trade

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New Orleans Saints

By setherick - League Admin

6/09/2025 11:48 am

kalvin1991 wrote:

Another side note, his rating is 91/92 on my team.

The way to think about this is he's your best DE, but DE isn't the best position on the team to invest a top 5 pick on.

For 1.3, you could have gotten a difference maker on offense likely a WR or QB where elite players are rare or the best DB in the draft.

If you were going to invest the 1.3 in DE, you could have probably gotten someone with ideal speed and acceleration to be a game wrecker. I haven't looked closely but I thought there some 95 plus guys there.

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