Tampa Bay Buccaneers sends:
Fred Garrett (FB)
Louis Bardin (MLB)
Kenny Hill (CB)
2041 Round 2 Selection 26

New Orleans Saints sends:
2042 Round 7 (New Orleans)
2043 Round 1 (New Orleans)


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I find this one equally questionable. It's three players collectively worth a 4th round pick and a late 2 for a pick that's like in the top half of the first round barring a turnaround in NOS.

Seth ,,,, can you please explain to me how L.Bardin, LB/ DE is worth 4th round pick ?
In the player Evelyn tool he is 88+ as the DL so pls explain

At LB, speed. Anything below 68 even in 4.6 is an extreme liability.

He can't b&r so you can't play him at CB effectively.

He could move to SS to get up to 70 speed which may make him more playable.

He could move to DE but even then he'll be average because of his other attributes, not dominant. (88 is a solid starter at DL.)

Maybe at DE or SS he's worth a 2, but otherwise he looks good coming off the bus.

Seth thanks for your view but earlier your comment was all combined 4th round and now he is jumped to 2nd round by himself as 88 DL ….his stats are other proof of his play …..i am not against any view but just want to avoid over reaction to every trade …2nd I rejected even more aggressive offfer on him from saints to give them fair deal……

I'm with setherick. Hill doesn't belong on a roster. Garrett is a fringe player at best. Bardin is a liability.

You know this. You wouldn't take this trade.

Infy both Hill and Garret is throw in for trade but pls tell me why Badin at 88 rating and 80 plus acceleration is liability pls check his stats too. It’s ok to question trade but not sure what data point is being used

I am sorry to understand but Badin and 2nd is not bad price to that level

His speed is a major liability. He won't be able to cover half the TEs or virtually all of the RBs he's matched up against. The low B&R means he can't even jam a TE in place. And if he's matched on a WR? Game over. And good luck trusting him to chase down a ballcarrier.

Probably why his stats show he allowed 61.1% completions when targeted last year. Presumably, he left some guys so wide open, they caught passes without counting him as being "thrown at."

His one redeeming value is having high pass catch, but he's so out of position he never has had an INT.

Here, you see my 84 speed RB beat Bardin to the edge for the TD: https://nfl.myfootballnow.com/watch/13615#2391608

Here, you see a 58 speed (!) TE get past Bardin for a TD: https://nfl.myfootballnow.com/watch/13489#2370475

Most of the TDs you give up are because you run all-out blitzes that leave your CB2 one-on-one with the other team's WR2 and no safety help. (That, and the Jags spam the flare to exploit the speed matchups.) This means Bardin is blitzing frequently, but he's so slow he didn't even record a sack last year.

I don't know what his value is exactly. There are situations where he could be valuable. But he certainly isn't worth moving up from the bottom of the second to the top of the first.

Again: You know this. You wouldn't take this trade.

Prove me wrong ... I'll sign this arguably better player that you let become a FA, and you can trade me a high draft pick for him: https://nfl.myfootballnow.com/player/14271

Absolutely first of all he was out of place as LB … he is DE plus .. I am sure we all players been blown out for coverage once in while… but no argument