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Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Pittsburgh Steelers

By Gustoon
1/13/2021 12:08 pm
Tampa Bay Buccaneers sends:
Tyler Smith (QB)
Frederick Rojas (FB)

Pittsburgh Steelers sends:
2020 Round 4 (Pittsburgh)
2021 Round 3 (Pittsburgh)
2021 Round 5 (Pittsburgh)


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Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Pittsburgh Steelers

By VillagerChris
1/14/2021 8:20 am
Can I challenge the last trade with tampa and pittsburg?

I don't know a whole lot but neither of those players are really worth anything let alone 3 picks including a 3rd rounder.

On another issue.. why is this Hk guy allowed to keep doing this.. i received a dozen offers from this guy all very lopsided and seeing's how he has 50 picks in 2 seasons and just keeps kicking the can down the road.. is enough never enough?



Yep you sure can challenge.

Looking at it it does look slightly more weighted towards Pitt (in favour).
The other thing you have to take into account is owners with different weights values, for example I have the FB as 72/76 and the QB as 56/66, no doubts your weights will be different.

HKP has been doing this for seasons. some people like it some don't. I'm not a fan of it and the trading rules are largely attributed for him.

He's not good at game planning but is a good GM. I'm glad you've come to me as it can be tiresome getting offer after offer, lol its what he does. However if you don't want to receive any more from just tell him, he's an ok guy and does try to help out the less fortunate teams.

Gus



Cool, thanks for the response.



It's seem like this GM is 100% protecting this owner not just simply allowing it happen. I'm not sure what to what to think about a commissioner who says I can challenge a trade and then in the same msg tried to convince me that the trade is actually in favor of the guy I'm challenging... and then doesn't. I know the excuses are gonna fly but that's what they are excuses.

Under no circumstances should that trade, as well as a dozen others should have gone through for that guy. He has 50 picks in 2 seasons and he just keeps kicking them down the road. I'm aware that the vast majority of the players don't care, because they don't really care much about the game in general... is this a regular occurrence with these two?

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Pittsburgh Steelers

By Gustoon
1/14/2021 10:14 am
Not a big fan of posting PMs (private messages) but here we are. This league is transparent, so you've opened up a challenge. Which is fine if not slightly passive aggressive.

VillagerChris wrote:
Can I challenge the last trade with tampa and pittsburg?

I don't know a whole lot but neither of those players are really worth anything let alone 3 picks including a 3rd rounder
I actually just tried to make the trade and with the exact same trade was 122 pts short, but my draft picks are valued less, so if the trade meter was on this would most likely have gone through and as I've said, personally I think Pitt got the better end of this deal.

On another issue.. why is this Hk guy allowed to keep doing this.. i received a dozen offers from this guy all very lopsided and seeing's how he has 50 picks in 2 seasons and just keeps kicking the can down the road.. is enough never enough?
There are no limits to how many trades a player can make in any league, its part and parcel of the game. As I told you if you don't want to receive offers from him, drop him a PM and let him know that you don't wish to engage in any trades with him, no issues.
Trade rules were brought in to stop players loading up on round 1, 2 an.d 3 picks as I and other league members deemed it detrimental to the game




Yep you sure can challenge.

Looking at it it does look slightly more weighted towards Pitt (in favour).
The other thing you have to take into account is owners with different weights values, for example I have the FB as 72/76 and the QB as 56/66, no doubts your weights will be different.

HKP has been doing this for seasons. some people like it some don't. I'm not a fan of it and the trading rules are largely attributed for him.

He's not good at game planning but is a good GM. I'm glad you've come to me as it can be tiresome getting offer after offer, lol its what he does. However if you don't want to receive any more from just tell him, he's an ok guy and does try to help out the less fortunate teams.

Gus



Cool, thanks for the response.



It's seem like this GM is 100% protecting this owner not just simply allowing it happen. I'm not sure what to what to think about a commissioner who says I can challenge a trade and then in the same msg tried to convince me that the trade is actually in favor of the guy I'm challenging... and then doesn't. I know the excuses are gonna fly but that's what they are excuses.

Under no circumstances should that trade, as well as a dozen others should have gone through for that guy. He has 50 picks in 2 seasons and he just keeps kicking them down the road. I'm aware that the vast majority of the players don't care, because they don't really care much about the game in general... is this a regular occurrence with these two?

If you have an issue with a trade, just make a post (in the trade message post) detailing why you think its unfair, as yet all you've said is that in your opinion its unfair, how? Back it up with facts instead of accusations.

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Pittsburgh Steelers

By VillagerChris
1/14/2021 10:30 am
This was at 3:45 pm yesterday and you didn't open the challenge.. and more than that you tried to convince me the trade was fine instead of posting the challenge.. which it isn't. Yes this is where we are, you tried to protect the trade, plain and simple. Exposed , plain and simple.

And I did explain it to you.. in the format I was supposed to.. with a challenge of the trade which again, you didn't challenge. No excuses, you didn't forget, you flat out didn't do it. That almost would have been fine but you literally tried to convince me otherwise.

For the record I don't care if someone amasses a load of picks to ACTUALLY make those picks for his team but that's not what this guy is doing.

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Pittsburgh Steelers

By Gustoon
1/14/2021 10:45 am
[quote="VillagerChris"]This was at 3:45 pm yesterday and you didn't open the challenge.. and more than that you tried to convince me the trade was fine instead of posting the challenge.. which it isn't. Yes this is where we are, you tried to protect the trade, plain and simple. Exposed , plain and simple.

And I did explain it to you.. in the format I was supposed to.. with a challenge of the trade which again, you didn't challenge. No excuses, you didn't forget, you flat out didn't do it. That almost would have been fine but you literally tried to convince me otherwise.

For the record I don't care if someone amasses a load of picks to ACTUALLY make those picks for his team but that's not what this guy is doing. [/quote]

I have a life outside of MFN ;)

Lol its up to YOU to challenge the trade, I have no idea why you are challenging, YOU need to explain it, with facts like player weights and the value of draft picks. So far all you've said is that its not fair and you don't like how many trades Tampa does.

TB amass picks so they can move up in rounds 1 and 2 and they do this by trading other picks. Read the rules about trades and it may help you understand how this works..
Please stop attacking me .
Last edited at 1/14/2021 10:49 am

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Pittsburgh Steelers

By Gustoon
1/14/2021 10:48 am
VillagerChris wrote:


I don't know a whole lot but neither of those players are really worth anything let alone 3 picks including a 3rd rounder.


They are actually worth more, try putting a trade in for them (without sending) and see how much you would have to give up.



For the record, does anyone have any complaints about this trade?

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Pittsburgh Steelers

By VillagerChris
1/14/2021 10:51 am
Are you seriously trying to convince me to consider the trade meter?????????????????????

And if you have a life outside of MFN, why did you bother to respond the first time?? Your life was so busy you had to time to write back 3 paragraphs but not but the challenge in??? are these reasons or excuses?
Last edited at 1/14/2021 10:53 am

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Pittsburgh Steelers

By Gustoon
1/14/2021 10:54 am
VillagerChris wrote:
Are you seriously trying to convince me to consider the trade meter?????????????????????

And if you have a life outside of MFN, why did you bother to respond the first time?? Your life was so busy you had to time to write back 3 paragraphs but not but the challenge in??? are these reasons or excuses?


Sorry Bud this league is not for you.

Best of luck elsewhere

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Pittsburgh Steelers

By VillagerChris
1/14/2021 10:54 am
Exactly. busted in your bullshit. you are a real piece of work my friend

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Pittsburgh Steelers

By Gustoon
1/14/2021 10:56 am
VillagerChris wrote:
Exactly. busted in your bullshit. you are a real piece of work my friend


You just have no idea how trades in MFN work. Sorry.