Tampa Bay Buccaneers sends:
2041 Round 2 Selection 12
2041 Round 1 Selection 32
2041 Round 2 Selection 13
2042 Round 2

Houston Texans sends:
2041 Round 1 Selection 4 (Houston)
2042 Round 7 (Houston)


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Not wanting to pile on but for me this is another one that I think Tampa has given up way to little for. The 4th overall pick for the 32nd pick and a few middling second rounders isn't close to what Houston should be getting.

Agree - especially since that 1.4 will then in future probably be traded for more picks.

Hi Fellow Falcons and Lions owners …respect your view but I must say it’s not based on data or value…it’s more driven by emotions……

Here are comparison

Draft 2035

Viking traded 2036 1st round (#30th pick), 2026 2nd round (#62 pick), 2037 1st round (#32) and 2037 2nd round (#64) …..basically 2 late future 1st round and 2 late future 2nd round

Viking received 2035 - 1st round 1st pick plus 7th round to make trade possible


So are you telling me this was good trade (personally I have no issue with this trade) but Bucs - Texan trade is where Bucs fleece them

Bucs send 2041 - 1st round (#32) , 2nd round (#44) , 2nd round (#45) plus 2042 2nd round ….

Bucs receive-1-4 and 7th round to make trade possible


Bucs has sent 3 Top 50 picks and 2 round for 4th pick which is fleecing but 2 picks in 30’s and 2 in 60’s was a good trade ?


Hope you can look at data to remove emotions and look at it ….that Bucs has paid better price than trade for 1-1 in 2035 draft …..


I would love to hear your views with data

I am going one step further and putting money where my opinion is ….

You feel Bucs fleeced or will outbid all …well here

I offer you both this same pick for same price

Send me offer for Falcons or Lions…1 - 1st round and 3- 2nd round ….and pick #4 and Bucs will be ready to be fleeced and will send the pick to Lions and Falcons…

Here is the 2nd data point

Draft 2038

Packers send 2038 1st round (#29), 2038 2nd round ( #61), 2039 2nd round (#64) and 2040 1st round (#25)

Packers receive 2038 1st round (#4), 4th round (#121), 6th round (#185) and 7th round (#217)

Is this better than Bucs and Texans trade ?


I am amazed that every one has view that Bucs trade is bad but pls review both recent top 5 trade and pls now tell me with data

Now I like to hear from all who had view ….but pls keep it with data shared

My problem is the volume of not any individual trade.

You have 31 draft picks for next years draft. 31. 12 in the second round.

We know full well you'll trade those picks; you ain't got the cap or roster space to take on 31 players, especially with the number of early picks you stock up on.

By your own admission, you're in it to GM not coach. That's fine, stock up on assets without really using them to advance or progress your team, that's your call. What is does however is unbalance the game for everyone.

You and I want to trade for a player from another team? You can blow me out of the water easily be overpaying. With the picks you have, that statement is valid for I'd say virtually all teams.

So, we know you've got to get rid of those picks you've amassed. As your trades are overwhelmingly with teams at the lower end of the rankings, no doubt we'll see more talent at those clubs be picked up by you for those picks then flipped for more picks.

I'll be honest, i don't see how that benefits the league or game. Can't speak for others, but I've no interest in any further trades with you unless it's from desperation; Staley i was happy to get due to my TE situation.

The cycle needs to be broken.

edit; and that's my final word as have a draft to prepare for.

Martin ….

First of all I’m offering you same leverage pay me your 1st and 3 2nd …. Pick 4th is yours … so I am not outbidding anyone

Pls check data I trade with all most of my trade are with Ravens, Steelers and Jaguars ….matter of fact 5 starter of Super Bowl champions Jaguar came in trade with Bucs ….

I traded with packers, Vikes pretty much every other season too

You rightly said people trade for need or reason …so u don’t want to trade but happy that I traded Stanley to you as you needed TE

Issue is people feel he fleeced Texans and saints for early pick …..well I am offering same trade to you and falcons but I am sure you will not make that trade as you know it’s not worth moving this many picks for one pick which can also bust ………..

Good luck with draft…..I am sure you will good..

We are one of the better winning percentage teams plus have 3 Super Bowl rings …so we compete as GM and do well …..

Proof that I traded with with good teams

I just traded Benton , dyer and 2nd round 2041 for jaguars 1st round 2043 and 3rd 2043

I traded 2nd round 25th pick to Steelers for their 2043 2nd round