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Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New England Patriots

By Gustoon
3/31/2020 4:38 pm
Tampa Bay Buccaneers sends:
Daniel Young (TE)
2014 Round 1 Selection 27
2016 Round 1

New England Patriots sends:
2014 Round 2 Selection 20 (Minnesota)
2016 Round 1 (New England)


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Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New England Patriots

By Mcarovil
3/31/2020 5:56 pm
Why would Tampa ever do this???

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New England Patriots

By hkpman7180
3/31/2020 7:03 pm
There were many good players but salary cap management is big issue with loaded roster ... so had to take calculated gamble.....

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New England Patriots

By raidergreg69
3/31/2020 11:09 pm
hkpman7180 wrote:
There were many good players but salary cap management is big issue with loaded roster ... so had to take calculated gamble.....


Calculated gamble? More like you traded so much you have to sell your assets for pennies on the dollar because you can't afford all of your toys. Wish I had the time right now to get in on the fire sale but I have almost no time for negotiations.

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New England Patriots

By Gustoon
4/01/2020 12:13 am
This is why I have put a cap on trades, it affects the league in different ways, this is one of them which can give other owners an unfair advantage.
At the end of the day, if you don't like how HK goes around his business, don't do business with him

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New England Patriots

By Mcarovil
4/01/2020 7:17 am
Stop yelling at me!

Gustoon wrote:
This is why I have put a cap on trades, it affects the league in different ways, this is one of them which can give other owners an unfair advantage.
At the end of the day, if you don't like how HK goes around his business, don't do business with him

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New England Patriots

By hkpman7180
4/01/2020 8:17 am
Well here is my detailed explanation of my trade.

Bucs did this trade due to many factors.

Board - We had J.Reid, CB , T.Mangus, WR , J. Bailey, DE & M. Speer, DT all good but with some element of risk. We picked J.Reid and saw all of them picked by the end of 1st.

Salary cap implication of failed 1st round. We have had 3 failed 1st round putting Bucs on it heels to manage the cap so that was back of our mind and did not wanted to have two picks with high salary cap implications.

We traded our 27th pick and 2016 Bucs 1st round ( hoping the we will continue to be playoff team so this pick will not be before 20th atleast) for 2-20 giving us chance to add player this year with little lower salary cap plus 1st round of Patriots ( with the view that even if they improved it will still be mid round 15-20 range pick)

So overall we traded 2 late 1st round for mid 1st round & mid-late 2nd round. I admit i wanted higher 2nd with this but we were against the clock plus we though J.Bailey will last till 2nd but that was wrong speculation on Buc's part. Yes i gave up D.Young who was good find for nothing honestly but that was sweetener to pull the trigger.

I think it was fair trade with little tilted toward Pats as they got young TE D.Young plus 27th pick and they will have Bucs 1st round in 2016. We got 2nd round plus better 1st round in 2016. ( No offense to Pats they may win super bowl in 2016 and will stand with lower pick but that is part of being GM)

Overall Trade Grade by our view....Pats - A in short term Bucs - B in short term but potentially could be A if things pan out as thought.

I am open to learn so feedback or comments are welcome as that makes me better GM....

I am actually going to post my explanation for each trade as i dont think there is any trade which i did just to manage my cap yes i have done most trade tilting toward other team to be fair.

I am open to trade with all .... mostly would have made offers to most of you every season.... :)

Please ping me private message for any question and will answer them

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New England Patriots

By hkpman7180
4/01/2020 8:20 am
Sorry forgot to mention names of our failed 1st rounder putting us in the salary cap issues John Welch, CB J. Roberts, DT S.Roman, FS .

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New England Patriots

By raidergreg69
4/01/2020 9:27 am
If you put half as much time into gameplanning as you do trying to make trades, you'd probably never lose.

Re: Completed Trade: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New England Patriots

By hkpman7180
4/01/2020 9:30 am
I totally and 100% agree with that statement but honestly i dont see or pride myself as the coach. I am playing this game to be the best GM out there in the any league.... that's my passion.