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2042 Season
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setherick
2042 Season
by setherick @ 8/18/2025 5:52 pm
I'll be taking advantage of the two new league admin tools in 2042 season:

* blocking plays from being used
* restricting player position swaps

The play position swaps and position will look pretty similar to our current rules. So you will still be able to swap an LB to DE for instance. But you can't play a DB at LB. I'll more specifically figure this out later.

Blocking plays is going to look something like:

* remove all the long passing plays
* remove the medium plays that do not work like the 014 medium slants plays (there are others)
* removing the short and medium plays that turn into garbage check downs like the HB Flat, but keeping the ones like the PA Fullback because of big play potential

I'll compile a full list of plays later.

On defense I'll seriously consider removing my favorite defense the 3-4 Cover 1 since it breaks things. Again need to think this through. I may also remove all zone defenses that don't work.

Right now I'm inviting the hate for this plan.
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setherick
Re: 2042 Season
by setherick @ 8/18/2025 5:54 pm
Not sure why this post says jdb posted it.
Infinity on Trial
Re: 2042 Season
by Infinity on Trial @ 8/18/2025 7:34 pm
I am especially fond of eliminating long passes.
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Vikings_Fan
Re: 2042 Season
by Vikings_Fan @ 8/18/2025 8:14 pm
> Agree with eliminating long passes as it is generally understood throughout the community that they are very ineffective.

> Opposed to eliminating any other offensive plays. It is up to individual team owners to experiment with various plays, learn as they go from plays called by opponents, and determine for themselves which offensive plays work well for their personnel and strategy.

> Disagree with eliminating the 3-4 Man Cover 1 defense. It is very effective in stopping runs to the left from the 1-1-3 offense but is otherwise not dominant (susceptible to other types of runs).

> Also opposed to eliminating any other defensive plays. There are some awful zone defenses when used in the wrong down / distance but there are some fairly exotic zone defenses that can be effective in limited circumstances, e.g., when used only in a 3rd down and 15 to 20 yards to go situation.

> We have excellent basic rules for this league and I hope we can keep it that way without too many additional limitations.
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dfisherman
Re: 2042 Season
by dfisherman @ 8/18/2025 10:50 pm
Vikings_Fan wrote:
> Agree with eliminating long passes as it is generally understood throughout the community that they are very ineffective.

> Opposed to eliminating any other offensive plays. It is up to individual team owners to experiment with various plays, learn as they go from plays called by opponents, and determine for themselves which offensive plays work well for their personnel and strategy.

> Disagree with eliminating the 3-4 Man Cover 1 defense. It is very effective in stopping runs to the left from the 1-1-3 offense but is otherwise not dominant (susceptible to other types of runs).

> Also opposed to eliminating any other defensive plays. There are some awful zone defenses when used in the wrong down / distance but there are some fairly exotic zone defenses that can be effective in limited circumstances, e.g., when used only in a 3rd down and 15 to 20 yards to go situation.

> We have excellent basic rules for this league and I hope we can keep it that way without too many additional limitations.

I agree with everything you commented. I would even go as far as letting people use long passes if they want
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setherick
Re: 2042 Season
by setherick @ 8/18/2025 11:48 pm
The reason for eliminating long passes is because there are still a number of newer owners that don't realize just how bad long passes are. Almost every play will end in a sack or interception. And the ones that don't are incomplete.

Looking at the play block editor, I noticed that the Flat Zone and FB Dives are available as plays that can be blocked. I assume this means they are reenabled in the new UI.
Last edited 8/19/2025 4:49 am
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Vikings_Fan
Re: 2042 Season
by Vikings_Fan @ 8/19/2025 2:49 am
Yikes! The return of the FB dives and the OL Flat Zone? Blocking those plays will be essential to maintaining the current integrity of the game. (My previous comments about not blocking plays assumed that those plays already eliminated from the game were no longer available.)
Last edited 8/19/2025 7:50 am
IoanBlood
Re: 2042 Season
by IoanBlood @ 8/19/2025 4:55 am
At the moment they are not available to choose. I assume JDB used his "old" data base for the blocking feature.
setherick
Re: 2042 Season
by setherick @ 8/19/2025 7:43 am
dfisherman wrote:
I agree with everything you commented. I would even go as far as letting people use long passes if they want

Looking at the 2040 data, these 75 plays produced fewer than .18 expected points per play which roughly equates to < 3 positive yards per play since the formula counts a yard at 0.06 points. Note that every single long passing play is in this list.

Shotgun 2 RB 3 WR Strong Deep Long
Weak I Normal All Go Long
I Formation Normal TE Out Long
Empty 4 Wide Spread Deep Corner Post Long
Singleback Normal FL Go Long
Shotgun Normal Deep Weak In and Out Long
Strong I Normal PA All Go Long
Singleback Big WR Streaks Long
I Formation Normal PA Streaks Long
Shotgun 4 Wide WR Corner Long
I Formation 3WR Slot Corner Long Medium
Singleback Slot Strong All Go Long
I Formation Power Play Action Bomb Long
Singleback Empty 4 TE Deep Out Long
I Formation 3WR HB Toss Strong Outside
Singleback 4 Wide Deep Middle Long
I Formation 3WR WR Post Long
Strong I Big TE Deep Corner Long
Singleback Empty 4 Slot Crosses Medium
Shotgun Normal Hail Mary Long
Shotgun 5 Wide 5 WR Deep Ins Long
Singleback Normal Deep Corners Long
Shotgun 2 RB 3 WR WR Hooks Medium
Weak I Big TE Deep Post Long
Singleback Normal FL Drag Long
Shotgun 5 Wide WR Curls Medium
I Formation 3WR Deep Corner/Post Long
Singleback Empty 4 TE Drag WR Mix Medium
I Formation Twin WR Slot Out Long
Shotgun 5 Wide 5 WR All Go Long
Singleback Big Waggle Post Long
I Formation 3WR SE Post Medium
Singleback Empty 4 WR Post Corner Long
I Formation Normal SE Post Long
I Formation Normal Curl & Post Medium
I Formation Big Streak Heavy Long
Shotgun Normal Post Flags Medium
Strong I Normal FB Trap Weak Inside
Singleback Big HB Curls TE Deep Medium
I Formation Normal TE Flag Medium
Shotgun 2 RB 3 WR FB In Medium
Shotgun 5 Wide 5 WR Corner Post Long
I Formation Normal PA Outside Curls Short
Split Backs 3 Wide WR Post Medium
Shotgun 5 Wide Slot Cross Medium
Shotgun 5 Wide Middle Curls Short
Singleback Normal All Go Long
Singleback Empty 4 Short Posts Short
Shotgun Normal HB Delay Inside
Singleback Slot Strong TE Corner Medium
Singleback Big TE Flat Curl Short
Empty 4 Wide Spread Flats Short
Singleback Big HB Pitch Weak Outside
Shotgun 5 Wide FL Hook Medium
Goal Line Normal PA TE Drag Short
Shotgun 2 RB 3 WR FL Drag Short
Split Backs 3 Wide WR2 Deep Post Long
I Formation Normal HB Toss Weak Outside
Shotgun Normal Double Outs Short
Shotgun 4 Wide In and Out Medium
Shotgun 4 Wide Slot Drag Short
I Formation Twin WR Slot Hitch Medium
Split Backs Normal Curls Short
Singleback Empty 4 Curl Flats Short
Singleback 4 Wide Clear Center Medium
Strong I Normal HB Power Strong Outside
Shotgun 2 RB 3 WR WR Curl Medium
Shotgun 4 Wide All Curls Short
Shotgun Normal Short Attack Medium
Shotgun 2 RB 3 WR RB Curls Short
Shotgun 4 Wide Slot Curl Medium
Goal Line Normal HB Dive Inside
I Formation Normal HB Toss Strong Outside
I Formation Normal FB Middle Short
I Formation Normal FL Hook Medium
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setherick
Re: 2042 Season
by setherick @ 8/25/2025 10:22 pm
I haven't had time to do anything with this, so we'll wait until the new UI is ready for everyone.
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