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raidergreg69
2002 Training Camp
by raidergreg69 @ 12/17/2017 5:42 pm
There has been chatter about player's physical weight now that it moves up or down. I have included my draftee's pre camp weight for comparison.

RT Langston Walker 330 lbs
MLB Phil Villapiano 260 lbs
WR Fred Biletnikoff 191 lbs
FS Neal Colzie 206 lbs
RDE Akbar Gbaja-Biamila 294 lbs
SLB Jack Squirek 248 lbs
WLB Ray-Ray Armstrong 220 lbs
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hkpman7180
Re: 2002 Training Camp
by hkpman7180 @ 12/17/2017 11:32 pm
Bucs had decent camp.... nothing major but all our draft pick except one had positive gains.... even one that had negative was just -1
Gustoon
Re: 2002 Training Camp
by Gustoon @ 12/17/2017 11:33 pm
This will be interesting.
The draft was so poor this year I pretty much opted out and hope next years will be better. NOt liking the progressions so far though
CrazyRazor
Re: 2002 Training Camp
by CrazyRazor @ 12/17/2017 11:43 pm
Most of my picks flopped terribly. Thanks for the picks, Gus! They didn't help! lol
I hope you have better luck next season with my picks!
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raidergreg69
Re: 2002 Training Camp
by raidergreg69 @ 12/17/2017 11:48 pm
Training camp was mostly unkind, results in bold after pre-camp weight.

RT Langston Walker 330 lbs(+17/-10)328 lbs
MLB Phil Villapiano 260 lbs(+11/-1)258 lbs
WR Fred Biletnikoff 191 lbs(+10/+4)192 lbs
FS Neal Colzie 206 lbs(+12/+9)206 lbs
RDE Akbar Gbaja-Biamila 294 lbs(+4/-6)290 lbs
SLB Jack Squirek 248 lbs(0/-18)247 lbs
WLB Ray-Ray Armstrong 220 lbs(+6/+4)224 lbs

Langston Walker should stick on the roster, though losing 10 ratings points likely means he'll be a backup. Phil Villapiano should get playing time at LB. Fred Biletnikoff isn't that fast and his pass courage doesn't measure up to the real FB but a solid camp shows he will be a good route runner with good hands.

Neal Colzie showed an improved talent ceiling in camp but needs to continue to grow in the preseason games to stick in a crowded Raider secondary. Same with Ray-Ray Armstrong except he is trying to stick at linebacker.

Two guys who have been asked to turn in their playbooks are Jack Squirek and Akbar Gbaja-Biamila. They were longshots to make the team anyway but their horrible (Squirek) or bad (Akbar) camps doomed them to civilian life. This is the only thing Squirek will ever be known for.

Gustoon
Re: 2002 Training Camp
by Gustoon @ 12/17/2017 11:50 pm
CrazyRazor wrote:
Most of my picks flopped terribly. Thanks for the picks, Gus! They didn't help! lol
I hope you have better luck next season with my picks!

How sick will you be if they do? ;)
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Gustoon
Re: 2002 Training Camp
by Gustoon @ 12/17/2017 11:52 pm
raidergreg69 wrote:
Training camp was mostly unkind, results in bold after pre-camp weight.

RT Langston Walker 330 lbs(+17/-10)328 lbs
MLB Phil Villapiano 260 lbs(+11/-1)258 lbs
WR Fred Biletnikoff 191 lbs(+10/+4)192 lbs
FS Neal Colzie 206 lbs(+12/+9)206 lbs
RDE Akbar Gbaja-Biamila 294 lbs(+4/-6)290 lbs
SLB Jack Squirek 248 lbs(0/-18)247 lbs
WLB Ray-Ray Armstrong 220 lbs(+6/+4)224 lbs

Langston Walker should stick on the roster, though losing 10 ratings points likely means he'll be a backup. Phil Villapiano should get playing time at LB. Fred Biletnikoff isn't that fast and his pass courage doesn't measure up to the real FB but a solid camp shows he will be a good route runner with good hands.

Neal Colzie showed an improved talent ceiling in camp but needs to continue to grow in the preseason games to stick in a crowded Raider secondary. Same with Ray-Ray Armstrong except he is trying to stick at linebacker.

Two guys who have been asked to turn in their playbooks are Jack Squirek and Akbar Gbaja-Biamila. They were longshots to make the team anyway but their horrible (Squirek) or bad (Akbar) camps doomed them to civilian life. This is the only thing Squirek will ever be known for.


Ouch! Walkers drop off was immense, but your FS looks very promising, fairly decent there raider
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Pernbronze
Re: 2002 Training Camp
by Pernbronze @ 12/17/2017 11:54 pm
I didn't pick till the 2nd but that RB busted badly though he'll still be my RB3. however it was still a great draft still after I found a Wes Welker style solid receiver who I rate out as an 82 future with a little more room to grow. I also found a backup QB who will be solid enough to hold a constant backup job in our league once he's grown. I'd guess at his ratings being around 75-80 maybe.
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CrazyRazor
Re: 2002 Training Camp
by CrazyRazor @ 12/18/2017 12:10 am
Gustoon wrote:
CrazyRazor wrote:
Most of my picks flopped terribly. Thanks for the picks, Gus! They didn't help! lol
I hope you have better luck next season with my picks!

How sick will you be if they do? ;)

Part of the risk of trades.
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Gustoon
Re: 2002 Training Camp
by Gustoon @ 12/18/2017 12:11 am
Pernbronze wrote:
I didn't pick till the 2nd but that RB busted badly though he'll still be my RB3. however it was still a great draft still after I found a Wes Welker style solid receiver who I rate out as an 82 future with a little more room to grow. I also found a backup QB who will be solid enough to hold a constant backup job in our league once he's grown. I'd guess at his ratings being around 75-80 maybe.

There are definitely diamonds in the rough if you look hard enough
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