Hi Fellow Falcons and Lions owners …respect your view but I must say it’s not based on data or value…it’s more driven by emotions……

Here are comparison

Draft 2035

Viking traded 2036 1st round (#30th pick), 2026 2nd round (#62 pick), 2037 1st round (#32) and 2037 2nd round (#64) …..basically 2 late future 1st round and 2 late future 2nd round

Viking received 2035 - 1st round 1st pick plus 7th round to make trade possible


So are you telling me this was good trade (personally I have no issue with this trade) but Bucs - Texan trade is where Bucs fleece them

Bucs send 2041 - 1st round (#32) , 2nd round (#44) , 2nd round (#45) plus 2042 2nd round ….

Bucs receive-1-4 and 7th round to make trade possible


Bucs has sent 3 Top 50 picks and 2 round for 4th pick which is fleecing but 2 picks in 30’s and 2 in 60’s was a good trade ?


Hope you can look at data to remove emotions and look at it ….that Bucs has paid better price than trade for 1-1 in 2035 draft …..


I would love to hear your views with data

I am going one step further and putting money where my opinion is ….

You feel Bucs fleeced or will outbid all …well here

I offer you both this same pick for same price

Send me offer for Falcons or Lions…1 - 1st round and 3- 2nd round ….and pick #4 and Bucs will be ready to be fleeced and will send the pick to Lions and Falcons…

Here is the 2nd data point

Draft 2038

Packers send 2038 1st round (#29), 2038 2nd round ( #61), 2039 2nd round (#64) and 2040 1st round (#25)

Packers receive 2038 1st round (#4), 4th round (#121), 6th round (#185) and 7th round (#217)

Is this better than Bucs and Texans trade ?


I am amazed that every one has view that Bucs trade is bad but pls review both recent top 5 trade and pls now tell me with data

Now I like to hear from all who had view ….but pls keep it with data shared


Oh one of the data most my trade is due to self govern 3 pick limit I have followed…hence I have to do excessive trade…..

Example I traded 2041 2nd round pick for 2043 2nd round pick ….this is done to move pick 2 years later ….so this is seen as excessive trades……


So now pls take emotion of Tampa being successful at trading and use data to give your views……….

I have self govern to 3 picks in 1st and 2nd so I make flurry of trades which sound like I have many picks …..which I do not going to apologies for having guts to trade my best players in peak to gain picks and to all who think we are not competitive we have good winning percentage for life and have won 3 super bowls too

I will also say we did stand corrected on saints trade where we had little more value as we counted J.Gwynn as worth value but since than we have agreed to add 2nd round to the trade to make it better I

Well why now all quite… no views ?

Data is there …..but now I know there will not be much reaction as we proved that while there may be some advantage but Bucs did not fleeced any one…..never have and never will…….

EDIT: D'oh, wrong thread.

I have responded I self govern to 3 pick limit in 1 and 2 nd round hence they are moved to future making it look like I have many …but I never leverage the. ….i never had 1-1 pick in last 7 years so it shows I have not impacted league balance …

I am trying to get this under control but due to 3 pick rules we followed for ages most of pick is from past picks traded for future picks to maintain limits

Example I traded 2nd round to Steelers for their 2043 2nd round so it’s sound like trade but it’s swapping pick now for future to maintain balance of league