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Re: Ideas On Avoiding Holding Calls?

By TAFIV
5/02/2016 6:28 am
something to check might be how familiar is the person who has the penalty called on them with the play being run, since i know irl that can have an effect on penalties

Re: Ideas On Avoiding Holding Calls?

By setherick - League Admin
5/02/2016 6:41 am
TAFIV wrote:
something to check might be how familiar is the person who has the penalty called on them with the play being run, since i know irl that can have an effect on penalties


It's a good point since player exp and play knowledge has other effects in the game, but in MFN-19 this should not apply since I've run the same offense with the same players being flagged for holding penalties for two-plus seasons.

In MFN-16, it might make more sense since I took the team over with four games left to go in the year.

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I should point out that the majority of my holding penalties come on running plays, which also doesn't make sense to me. I would have to find actual stats to back this up, but it seems that the majority of holding penalties in the pros are on passing plays.
Last edited at 5/02/2016 7:13 am

Re: Ideas On Avoiding Holding Calls?

By Gustoon
5/02/2016 12:21 pm
setherick wrote:
Gustoon wrote:
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I also think that 'holds' occur depending on who that player is facing as well, just thinking that they are holding just for the sake of it doesn't add up.


That's a good question. I'd have to go investigate this more.

For what it's worth, it could have something to do with the offensive plays that I call. I had four holding penalties on offense in conf championship in MFN-16. And then one holding penalty while returning an INT.


Also how long the QB is holding the ball, I know the call is almost immediate, but the 'random' factor will determine this.
If a play is long and the QB is doing anything more than say a 3 step drop, this could also factor in, all in all I think many variables go into why so many hold pens occur.

Re: Ideas On Avoiding Holding Calls?

By lellow2011
5/02/2016 2:06 pm
I recently traded a TE with 0 discipline that had a grand total of 12 holding calls in 5 seasons. Not sure what to tell you.

Re: Ideas On Avoiding Holding Calls?

By WarEagle
5/02/2016 2:14 pm
lellow2011 wrote:
I recently traded a TE with 0 discipline that had a grand total of 12 holding calls in 5 seasons. Not sure what to tell you.


I think it's just another example showing the only ratings that actually impact on field performance in this game are speed and acceleration. And kick holding.

Re: Ideas On Avoiding Holding Calls?

By setherick - League Admin
6/18/2016 12:38 pm
Coming back to this thread after my Buffalo Dumpster Fires team recorded eight offensive holding penalties in the fourth quarter, including FIVE consecutive offensive holding penalties. How do you record five consecutive offensive holding penalties you ask? Here's how:

1) https://mfn13.myfootballnow.com/gamecenter/view/2277#429519
2) https://mfn13.myfootballnow.com/gamecenter/view/2277#429520
3) https://mfn13.myfootballnow.com/gamecenter/view/2277#429521
4) https://mfn13.myfootballnow.com/gamecenter/view/2277#429522
5) https://mfn13.myfootballnow.com/gamecenter/view/2277#429523

Say what you will about my team and play knowledge. We earned the name Dumpster Fires this season for a reason, but come on. Five consecutive holding penalties? That's stupid. That's bad code somewhere -- not broken, but just a bad combination of play knowledge, discipline, fatigue and whatever else bumping up against the random number generator in a bad way.

Two more offensive holding penalties that quarter came on back-to-back plays by the same player, which at least slightly more realistic.